It’s the series premiere of Marvel Studios Ms. Marvel, and it’s finally time to meet Kamala Khan on “Generation Why”! In the first episode of the new show, we head to Jersey City where young Kamala loves superheroes, and Captain Marvel in particular. And all she wants to do is go to AvengersCon with her friend Bruno, under a family heirloom takes things on a turn for the weird. From Marvel Cinematic Universe and comic book Easter eggs, we break it all down.
Full Episode Transcript:
Alex: Welcome to MarvelVision, a podcast about Marvel, the MCU. And right now, the kickoff of Ms. Marvel. I’m feeling marvelous this evening. I’m Alex.
Justin: Oh, I’m feeling mischievous this evening and I’m ready to get marvelous.
Alex: Yes. Now, this of course is a show all about a standup comedienne trying to make it in the 1940s, 1950s, I don’t remember the time period.
Justin: Pay attention, sketch comedians from 2002. Marvelous Ms. Marvel, put it out there.
Alex: The Maiselest Ms. Marvel, that’s been rolling around in my head for years. But this is actually the kickoff of Ms. Marvel now on Disney+. So if you haven’t watched it yet, go watch it because we’re going to spoil it. But the broad overview here is we meet Kamala Khan, we meet her family, we meet her friends. She is a huge fan girl for Captain Marvel. And by the end of the episode, she’s gotten some strange new powers thanks to a bracelet. They’re very different from the powers in the comics, which we’ll talk about in a second. She’s been probably grounded by her parents, but she’s also destroyed/saved Avengers-con thanks to her powers. And in a little after credits teaser, we find out that damage control, I was supposed to say danger patrol, damage control is tracking her down. There’s a lot of stuff to unpack here from MCU Easter eggs to just the general changes from the comic books to TV. But what was your overall take, Justin? What’d you think about this kickoff episode?
Justin: I liked it. I feel like I really like a lot of the creative swings in this show and the way that we have our main character, Ms. Marvel. It is like she messes up a lot. She’s actively clumsy. There’s a lot of fun to be had here. On the other side of it, half of the show feels like a Disney channel show from 20 years ago. And that is a little oh, I don’t want that to overtake too much because the rest of the show is so creative.
Alex: Yeah. I think to say the absolute best thing about the show, which honestly is the best thing you could have hoped for, Iman Vellani as Kamala Khan is perfect.
Justin: Yeah, great.
Alex: Spot on.
Justin: Really good.
Alex: Nails the character, she’s easily the best part of the show, not even getting into the powers or anything like that. Love the character for the comic and I think she nails that here. I also really liked a lot of the visual flare that was going on here. There’s a lot of fun weird things that they do that to me almost felt like an extension, not just of Spider-Man: Homecoming, but the after credits of Spider-Man: Homecoming. It feels like they saw that and the fun and Peter Parker doing his vlog about Captain America’s civil war and just ran with that, took the logical next step there and that stuff is fun.
Alex: But to your point, there does feel like there’s some pacing issues in this first episode. And also, I would say energy issues. I think people are not quite at the same level as Iman Vellani at all points. Maybe not to be rude about it, maybe that’s acting talent, maybe it’s the direction, I don’t know. But there were certainly points where it felt like things slowed down considerably and then they’d speed up considerably. That can happen in a pilot. So we’ll see how it turns out on the second episode. I still overall dug it. I had a fun time. But yeah, there are some wobbly bits at this current point.
Justin: Yeah. But the dynamic creative choices I think helps so much. And I think when it dips back into regular, almost sitcomy scenes, that’s when I feel like you’re saying it loses some of that energy and feels a little just out of step. But all the bigger creative swings are so worth it. And just the visual language this show is using down to the Avengers-con feeling almost like a weird fun house going into the Hulk mouth that feels like a brighter Stranger Thingsy vibe to it. And the Jersey City universe of it is fun too, where everything is going to be smashed. I think they’re going to smash everything. And it feels like that Jersey City is that character. But I really liked what you said about Spider-Man: Homecoming, this feels like the next step of that, taking the baton of that really young interesting main character and getting into her world is really fun, now that Spider-Man is so caught up in the continuity spiral of the rest of the MCU and Sony universe.
Alex: Yeah. I want to also give a shout out to how they get into this episode and how they get into Kamala Khan’s fandom of Captain Marvel. This is a weird very particular thing that I was concerned about going into this first episode and going into the series because in the comic books, she is a huge fan of Captain Marvel. The way that they do it in the comic books is there’s this inhuman mist that goes all over the earth and activates people’s inhuman powers. She ends up getting shape changing powers and immediately turns into Captain Marvel.
Alex: And being a Muslim American that turns into a blonde white woman, there’s issues that she deals with there before she ultimately owns her own identity. So taking away all of that, putting aside the powers for a second which we should get into in a moment, I think the fact that I still don’t quite understand how everybody knows what went on at Avengers: Endgame has been bothering me a little bit in the MCU. So I didn’t know if they were going to get into it here, but the way they did it, I was fine with it-
Justin: Scott Lang’s podcast.
Justin: Scott Lang’s podcast.
Alex: Scott Lang’s podcast.
Justin: That guy’s chatty and he doesn’t hold anything back.
Alex: Yes, big me, little me, they’ve got to release that also. That’s another thing. But having her recap it on her YouTube channel, talking about her fandom there, it all crisped in for me, it all made sense at that point. So I was very happy to see that right off.
Justin: Yeah, I agree. When the Marvel flip flipped to the YouTube version of it.
Alex: And I’ve got to say, I love that Marvel flip. It’s so good.
Alex: So good.
Justin: I mean the flip of this was great. I wish someone on this podcast was able to talk about that, highlight that in a way, but I guess we don’t have that person here. But that whole opening sequence was so cool and really set the tone of like, “Oh, wow, we’re going to get a lot of big creative ideas here.” And you have to really lean in and pay attention because it’s so interesting and so well done.
Alex: The other thing that I thought was very interesting about the way this started, it’s tonal opposite is the wrong way to say it, but Easter egg opposite from Moon Knight, which had I think approximately two MCU Easter eggs over the course of the six episodes on purpose, they wanted to make it its own thing and feel like its own thing rather than the next step in the MCU. This is full-fledged into it. Like you said, we find out Ant-Man’s podcast, there’s Avengers-Con, is chock-full of so many Easter eggs nonstop. There’s references, it exists in this world. And I think that’s great to see as well. We do a podcast for The Boys, which delves pretty heavily into the dark side of superhero celebrity, this is showing the flip side of that. This is showing how everybody loves the Avengers and is into the Avengers and treats them like the biggest celebrities in the world, because of course they would be. They saved literally the entire universe.
Justin: Yeah. And I mean her name is Ms. Marvel, so it makes sense that she’s going to be a little more connected to the Marvel cinematic universe I think. But to your point, I also think this series feels like it has almost a little sibling relationship to the rest of the MCU. So of course, the characters here are going to be looking up at the Avengers in MCU. And I think setting the stage for this, the thing we’ve talked about a lot, the Young Avengers, it feels like Ms. Marvel will fall into that despite the fact that she’s not really in the Young Avengers in the comic book universe.
Alex: Yeah. She ends up in the Champions and other young teams like that. So we’ll definitely see where that goes. She’s also going to be in the Marvels which is going to team her up with Captain Marvel as well as Photon, Monica Rambeau.
Alex: So that should be fun to see as well. I’m already excited about that one episode in. But let’s talk about the powers because that is another big thing that I think people are very concerned about going in here. As we mentioned in the comic book, she has these stretching powers. She calls them her biggening powers. So she does things like she makes her fist bigger or her legs grow longer or her neck grows up or things like that. Even though she can do the shape changing thing, ultimately it’s mostly about stretching her limbs a little bit. And the initial idea I believe from G. Willow Wilson who helped create the character was the awkwardness of puberty, that you don’t feel comfortable in your own body. So it’s stretching everywhere. We don’t get that here. Instead, she seems to be creating some light constructs more in line with the Green Lantern than, say, Mr. Fantastic.
Justin: But they still seem to be an extension of her body. As we saw her power, she put the bracelet on right before she took the stage at Avengers-Con and the Cosplay Contest. And you see this energy go to her body. And I thought that was a very specific choice to be like, “Look, this is an extension of her body. We’re still using that metaphor.” Because it’s less actual body, it’s not going to be on the puberty metaphor as much. And maybe about how young people or all of us really in this modern society have to be stretching ourselves in a million different directions. She’s trying to get into college. She’s trying to be a good daughter to her family. She’s trying to be young and do the things that she wants to do.
Justin: It feels like they shifted the metaphor a little bit, but I’m here for it. I’m not bothered at all by that. I think it’s a better choice. From a production standpoint, it’s way easier to make an energy construct than to actually stretch the actor’s body. So that’s cool. They can put the money somewhere else in production. And it makes for a show that I think will be a little less like, “So wait, she stretches?” Because it is a little weird. She’s Ms. Marvel but she doesn’t have any energy power, she just stretches, Captain Marvel, but she stretches, it was like that never makes clean sense when you’re not approaching the character through the book where they lay out the metaphor of puberty.
Alex: Yeah. I dug it as well and I think it’s way more visual. I’m sure they’ll figure out how to do this provided in the time they get to the Fantastic Four movie. But stretching looks bad. Generally speaking, unless you’re talking about The Incredibles and then that’s full on cartoon, it looks bad on human beings. So doing energy contracts instead.
Justin: So I don’t stretch personally at all no matter what I do.
Justin: No, no.
Alex: Never. No, never. I do Wii Sports a little bit, but that’s pretty much it.
Justin: I do reverse yoga. I clench up. It’s not downward dog, it’s just angry barking dog. Yeah, just regular dog.
Alex: Yeah, me too. We did get a shout out there though when she saves Zoe towards the end of the episode, she stretches out her energy hand and it does look just like the biggening hands. So they know what they’re doing in terms of changing it. And also, this is very early theory here, but based on that very quick shot of she gets the bracelet from her nani, we don’t know exactly what’s going on, where it came from, what its origin is, but as soon as she puts it on, she falls through something where there’s an army with glowing eyes and something like that.
Alex: So I have to assume given the Captain Marvel connection, it’s going to connect back to the Kree in some way potentially, or one of the alien races. So I think that’s what we’re seeing here. And the energy construct, again, makes a little more sense for it.
Justin: Yeah. It feels like something that will both connect to it being an artifact from another place. But I also think it’s going to have a cultural connection because it feels like her mom knows about the bracelet. She’s like, “Don’t touch that, put that away, hide that in the attic.” So instantly, it feels like this is a generational thing that has been handed down and maybe Kamala’s mom didn’t take it or something like that.
Alex: Yeah. I really like that idea as well. And to your point, there does seem to be a little more something going on there, excited to see how that pans out over the course of the episodes. While we’re talking about it, let’s get into Kamala’s family. We meet her mom, her dad, we meet her brother who everybody loves way more than her. What’d you think about this setup?
Justin: I like all these characters. I like how goofy the dad is. The mom is the strict one and she is the authority, but she still cares. It’s not as one dimensional as sometimes can be in a show like this. But the way that dad loves Bruno and is into technology. They’re all specific in a fun way without overtaking the rest of the show.
Alex: Yeah. It definitely seems like the closest relationship, at least in terms of the family, is between the mom and Kamala. Some of the seeds here, particularly I guess because we’re dealing with a family that seems to be a matriarchy, has a dad who steps back and follows the lead. We’ve got that-
Justin: Doesn’t mind throwing some makeup on.
Justin: If his daughter needs it.
Alex: But also the scene where we got the presentation of here’s why I should be allowed to go to Avengers-Con, it reminded me pretty heavily of Turning Red at points. Obviously, very different stories. But just in terms of that, I thought that was a funny comparison that both of these things turned up on Disney+, even though they go in very different directions, presumably nobody’s going to turn into a giant panda at some point. But that scene in particular reminded me of it, the family dynamics a little bit. Plus, the brother who I thought the brother was great.
Alex: I think there would be a temptation here to make him an overbearing nerd who everybody loves, but he seems like a legitimately nice guy who likes Kamala, feels embarrassed about the fact that everybody thinks he’s awesome and just wants to help her out. And that’s cool.
Justin: Yeah, I agree. He seems fun. I wonder, he does feel like he just comes in and says a line and then leaves and has a couple nice moments. He has that sitcom neighbor energy right now.
Justin: I’m curious if he’ll come in a little bit more and be more of someone that Kamala can go to and talk to about her burgeoning superhero situation.
Alex: Well why don’t we move over to Kamala’s friends then? We mentioned Bruno, who is obviously a major character in the comic books and also in the series. They got a great moment on the roof there while they’re talking where it seems like they’re about to smooch potentially before they turn away. So clearly, there’s some romantic complications coming up there. What’d you think about him?
Justin: I liked him. I like that he’s this independent kid. I like that he is Tony Starkesque, but not making actual superpower stuff. There’s a second with the Photon gloves where I was like, “Wait a second, he can’t make actual… Okay, good. They’re just light up gloves.” I didn’t want to bend the reality too far in too many directions. So I like that he’s legitimately good. He wants to have a business where he is an electrical engineer building interesting things. Their relationship, the romantic moment on the roof really caught me off guard. I didn’t get any chemistry between them. It felt very like, “We’re friends and we are the closest people to each other in a purely platonic way.” So when that happened, I was like, “Oh, okay. I guess we’re going to go this way a little bit.” But then it’s never touched upon again. And honestly, seconds later, they’re playing, right, instantly. So I’m curious if that’s maybe something that they just have to reconcile and it’s not a thing, or if it will actually build into a real sexual relationship.
Alex: That’s a weird way to say it right at the end there. But-
Justin: I don’t mean that, I mean a romantic relationship.
Alex: Romantic relationship, maybe that’s a better way of saying it. But I think that’s something that you go through at that age, right? That-
Alex: You do have these moments where you’re like, “Oh, am I attracted to my best friend?” And then you’re like, “No, no, no, no, we’re just playing on a roof, it’s fine,” and then it pops up again or doesn’t or whatever. So that felt very realistic to me. I also liked Bruno. I think he was one of those energy things where I felt like it took me a while to get into his vibe of just being, “Yeah, I’m just here. I’m happy to help out, all good.”
Justin: Yeah. But hanging with dad in the way that I was like, “Wow.” I didn’t have a lot of friends where I was like, “Oh, my dad and you were just talking over there? What are you talking about? That’s weird.”
Alex: The other thing that I thought was interesting while we’re talking about the fan group, we very briefly meet Nakia here who shows up, they do the bet, that’s very fun. We also meet Zoe who is probably going to be a major character. And this was the thing that threw me a little bit just based on decades of high school set TV shows and movies, Zoe, who seems clearly set up to be the big bully of the show, Kamala knocks into her and then Zoe is like, “Hey, watch it. Oh, nice necklace.” And then she compliments her on something else, I think she likes her shirt as well. And it threw me. It threw me because everybody in the show is nice. Even the stuff with her coming into school, it isn’t that she’s the dork who everybody hates at school. It’s just she’s just there and wandering through the high school. It’s not that it’s a negative high school, it’s not filled with cartoon bullies or anything like that. It just is. And I do think that’s a smarter and more inclusive choice, but it’s surprising from a dramatic perspective.
Justin: Yeah. But I like the move because then maybe it’s a tension of Zoe and the friends who are like, “Well we’re not all friends.” It puts Kamala in a position to be like, “Oh, we have this in common. And then my friends are my friends.” And I think it’s a little more interesting than, “That bully is mean to me,” because that feels very static. This feels like there can be some flow and maybe she will have a new friend that she welcomes into the group, or there’s a little more of a team atmosphere that comes together over the course of it.
Alex: It felt a little Flash Thompson to me though, not the movie Flash Thompson, but the comic book Flash Thompson, of being maybe a little annoyed at Kamala in real life, but immediately seeing Ms. Marvel and becoming a super, super fan of her.
Alex: And that’s a fun dynamic to play off of as well. I also liked the little Easter egg of Zoe wearing the classic Captain Marvel costume to Avengers-Con. I thought that was very fun. And then calling out, “That isn’t even the real costume,” even though it actually is the real costume. So there you go.
Justin: Wow, only we know. Only we know.
Alex: Nobody else. Nobody else knows that.
Justin: Nobody else knows that.
Alex: What else about the episode would you want to call out in particular?
Justin: Love the use of the song City Lights at the top of the show, really gave it some great energy to drive through and show that this show’s going to be fun at the end of the day. Her plan to get out of the house and get to Avengers-Con, being awesome, then being super heroic. And then when they do, it’s like, “Oh, we can’t do that. I’m not going to do flip out my window.” But she still does it and she lands on the tree branch and falls. I was like, “Jesus.” And they get to the bridge and they’re late because she had talked about as if they were going to jump onto the roof of the bus. All those little moments feel so youthful and it gives the show that young I’m going to make mistakes energy.
Alex: I also really like the punch line of her going through the whole plan, sketching it out on the chalkboard then Bruno saying, “So your plan is take the bus?”
Alex: Good line. Good line.
Justin: Great. And she really put some time into that chalkboard work, which as we know, chalkboard, temporary.
Justin: It’s like a big Etch A Sketch.
Alex: Yeah. I do want to mention as much as I loved Avengers-Con and maybe I was… No, not maybe, I definitely was focusing the wrong direction. But I kept expecting a cameo there. We got a cameo in Ryan Penagos who is Agent M over at Marvels, the guy who’s judging the cosplay competition. So that’s fun. But the whole Avengers-Con thing, I understand why they set it up the way they did for plot reasons. But it is weird to me to have a night convention for Avengers that has no celebrities there. You know what I’m talking about? I kept expecting-
Alex: A third tier somebody from the MCU to be siding autographs or something because that’s the thing that would happen.
Justin: Who do you get there? Who’s the person? Because I hear-
Alex: Luis from Ant-Man shows up and he’s like, “I’m Ant-Man’s best friend.”
Justin: Yeah, I guess. Well he has his own booth there.
Justin: I mean that would be funny. That’s a deep joke because the only one that makes sense would be to have Paul Rudd there.
Justin: But I mean he’s a tough guy I imagine. But that would’ve been cool, especially since the Scott Lang podcast was set up, if he was there shamelessly plugging his podcast or autographs or whatever. I think that would’ve been cool. But because I was thinking of this too, it’s hard to think of someone that would be instantly recognizable, but would be like, “They’re an Avenger adjacent character and they’re at a Jersey City Avengers convention.”
Alex: Yeah. I mean you could have Michael Douglas, that would be a fun thing. He shows up and he’s like, “What’s going on here again?”
Justin: Yeah. Yeah.
Alex: But as it is, it’s fine. I still think there are so many fun Easter eggs here, love the fact that it was at Camp Lehigh where Captain America trained. So that was a fun little Easter egg. You have the Star Spangled Man is playing from the first Captain America movie. You have a quick shot of Iron Man 2 style dancers in there. There’s that sweet tribute to Black Widow and Iron Man. I maybe got this wrong, but there was a shirt for Groot and it was Tree Man or something.
Alex: Which I thought was very fun because of course you would’ve known his name was Groot. You just saw the Tree Man in the final battle and you’re like, “Yeah, that’s Tree Man. There we go.”
Justin: I’d be curious to hear how you saw the Tree Man in the final battle as a regular person on earth, but-
Justin: I think they had some cam. There’s a-
Alex: Yeah. I’ll throw this out there again, I feel like they’ve got to do this at some point, they have to have one regular guy with a camera phone who wandered through the portals at the end. He was visiting [inaudible 00:23:56], he was on vacation and he’s like, “Where are you guys going? Are we going to a party or something? Oh my God. Oh no.” And that’s how everything came about.
Justin: Yeah. That makes total sense. Great footage.
Alex: Mm-hmm (affirmative).
Justin: A couple other things I wanted to call out. I love the bit at the beginning after her disastrous driver’s test where Kamala is in the back of the car fantasizing about superheroes flying by the car window. I 100% used to do that.
Alex: Mm-hmm (affirmative).
Justin: And I loved seeing that long car trips that I really identified with that. I thought that was really cool. Small New York thing, The Halal Guys versus Halal Cart, shout out when they were shopping, I thought was cool. Very hyper-specific.
Alex: I really liked the shopping sequence too, it was very fun. And also shout out to it was Martin Starr as the driving teacher, right, who was one of the teachers in the Tom Holland Spider-Man series. So there’s a nice little connection there, again, shouting back to that and its tonal compatriot. We also got, as mentioned, damage control shows up at the end and those are the folks from Spider-Man: No Way Home who are questioning them at the beginning. So it feels like that’s something that they’re starting to thread through the MCU as well which is I think pretty fun.
Justin: Yeah. I was surprised to see a post credit sequence at the beginning at the first episode of the show, but it was great.
Alex: Yeah. I like the scene with, I think it was Mr. Walter or Mr. Walters [inaudible 00:25:30], another character who could be a mean character but is actually super, super nice, talking about how, “Please don’t call me Mr. Walter, my dad is Mr. Walter. Actually, my dad is also named Doug.”
Justin: Yeah. Gabe. Mr. Wilson I think you mean.
Alex: Wilson. Wilson.
Justin: And yeah, that was this cool teacher trying so hard I thought was a fun character as well, yeah.
Alex: Doing the speech from Mulan, another fun bit there.
Alex: Yeah. And I think I want to be not upfront because we’re 25 minutes into the podcast here, but we’re two white dudes talking about this and I don’t want to under emphasize how important the representation is in this sort of show.
Alex: Whatever you think about equality wise, and I think overall we’ve been pretty positive about it, the fact that there are really positive representations of Muslim Americans here in the show through Kamala, through her family, through all the characters we’re seeing is awesome. And adding that into the MCU is awesome. Also, back to back with, and I know we are critical about this in different ways, but the really positive Egyptian and Egyptian American representation. And I guess Egyptian British, Layla was British maybe.
Alex: I don’t know.
Alex: Whatever it was, they’re really trying very hard to turn around the ship there in terms of you go back 10 years and they have five guys all named Chris and that was their big representation to then go to this I think is a really positive step. There’s a lot more to go, but it’s great to see that here.
Justin: And when you say trying really hard, I don’t want it to seem like it feels like there’s an effort, it feels weighted in a way because it actually feels pretty light. It feels like this is the story. They just actually selected characters that have a different background as opposed to the hundreds of white dude characters in comics. And I think just that character selection alone and the way they creatively executed these shows makes it seem fun. And it doesn’t have to be like, “Hey, look, we’re finally doing representation correctly.” It’s like, “No, this is a character that’s going to be great. Aren’t you happy we did this?” And the answer is yes.
Alex: And that is how you do representation correctly by showing these characters existing and being and going through the same stories as everybody else with little tweaks and changes. Clearly, we’re going to delve more into her background and ancestry as we go on whether that’s alien ancestry or Muslim ancestry, and I think we’re probably going to get a little bit of both of them as we have this intergenerational thing that happened with the bracelet, whatever the mystery is there. And that’s great. Like you’re saying, it is good to have that on TV. I’m glad we have that on TV. And I hope they continue in that direction. If we could have the next 10 years of the MCU, ultimately there’s one Chris, that would be awesome.
Justin: Wow. I mean Chris is just a name.
Alex: I’m just tired of the best Chris, I’m tired of the best Chris conversation. We all know it’s Chris Pine, let’s move on from there.
Justin: Wow. Oh, wow, way to drop that at the end. The most controversial unrelated take to drop here, really nice.
Alex: Yeah. Oh, I do want to throw out, you mentioned this earlier in terms of her being clumsy, but I thought this was another really good aspect of the show, she gets hit in the nose playing dodgeball. And I mean we’ll see what happens at subsequent episodes, but there’s always this thing where they’re like, “I’m a clumsy nerd. I got powers and now I can do double flips and go off of everything.” So the fact we’ll see how that plays out here, clearly she’s still clumsy in that she knocks down Ant-Man’s head and knocks over Thor’s hammer, nearly kills Zoe I guess.
Justin: I mean I would say she’s more clumsy, which actually tracks.
Justin: If you have a new power and you’re inherently clumsy, you’re going to be wildly more clumsy-
Justin: When you’re doing that.
Alex: So I thought that was great. I thought that was a really fun detail. Overall, great episode. Why don’t we go to our vision board and talk about what we think is going to happen on the next episode? What is on your vision board, Justin?
Justin: Well it’s interesting. I feel like we don’t really have a villain here. It’s really just about her getting through her life and trying to do the things that she wants or needs to do and loving Captain Marvel, and suddenly she has powers. So I’m curious the damage control thing doesn’t feel like a villain, it feels like another similar problem to what she has on her plate now, getting around her parents, doing all the different things she needs to do. So I’m curious, I imagine there will be some villain emerging and she’ll have to actually get involved in some fight rather than just wrecking Jersey City, which is my major prediction of what’s going to happen in the rest of the series. So I want to see where we go with some antagonist.
Alex: Yeah. I definitely want to find out more about this whole mystery of the bracelet. I don’t think we’re going to get that next episode, I think that’s going to be a season long thing potentially, and maybe even go into the Marvels and play off there in terms of the plot. But that’s really interesting. I’m very curious about that. I think that’s going to be fun to follow. And speaking of following, if you would like to support our podcast, patreon.com/comicbookclub. Also, we do a live show every Tuesday night at 7:00 PM to Crowdcast and YouTube. Come hang out. We would love to chat with you about the MCU. Apple, Spotify, Stitcher, or the app of your choice to subscribe, listen and follow the show at MarvelVisionPod on Twitter, Instagram and Facebook. comicbookclublive.com for this podcast and many more. Until next time, stay marvelous.
Justin: Stay mischievous, marvelous.
Alex: Maiselous. Stay maiselous.
Justin: Stay maiselous.